Gouverneur Morris and the Vampire of Bizarre (Podcast)

‘Ello, Gouverneur!

In this episode, we delve into the big penman energy of founding father Gouverneur Morris, the peg-legged sex-positive anti-slavery aristocrat who penned multiple constitutions and sailed through life with care-free confidence. We also explore the story of his wife, Ann Cary “Nancy” Randolph and the sensational scandal at Bizarre that she struggled to overcome.

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Show Notes:

In his biography, Richard Brookhiser speaks to Gouverneur Morris’s “relaxed confidence.” In 2018, this concept took on the name of “big dick energy” and it’s an apt description of Morris’s attitude.

Morris was known as the “Tall Boy” in the Continental Congress, and his first assignment was to report on the conditions at Valley Forge. He became fast friends with fellow tall boy George Washington, and they later teamed up at the Constitutional Convention. Morris spoke more than anyone else at the Convention, and he used his knowledge of history and people to turn the Convention’s deliverable into a powerful and concise Constitution.

This 1788 statue of George Washington in the rotunda of the Virginia State Capitol in Richmond, Virginia is by Jean-Antoine Houdon. The artist used a life mask of George Washington for the head, with Gouverneur Morris serving as a model for the body.

Morris suffered severe injuries to his right arm and left leg, but he did not let that stop him from having multiple affairs with married women in the United States and France.

Detail of Gouverneur Morris from the painting by Chappel, New York Public Library Digital Collections

When he finally settled down, it was with Ann Cary Randolph, also known as Nancy. She was part of Virginia’s powerful and ubiquitous Randolph family, and she was trying to escape from her past. Morris married her knowing all the details she was willing to divulge, and he stood by her when the abusive John Randolph of Roanoke (or Jack) tried to destroy in the eyes of her husband.

John Randolph of Roanoke, or Jack, at 38. National Portrait Gallery.

Despite his accomplishments, Morris is not a household name like his co-Founders. There are several reasons for this, but it mostly boils down too the fact that he was too Federalist and anti-slavery for the Democratic-Republicans and too sexy for moral history writers. And there’s the little fact that he was all for breaking up the country he helped found, but nobody’s perfect.

Then, we tackle the most unfortunate and horrifying death of Gouverneur Morris as the result of a cringeworthy attempt at self-surgery with a piece of whale bone.

Silk corset stiffened with whale bone, 1730-1740, LACMA

Gouverneur Morris might not be a household name now but just you wait. Like John Adams and Alexander Hamilton, he is due for a resurgence.

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  1. Peggy Lamberton
    December 3, 2020 / 2:25 pm

    Loved it! My first experience with Patreon. Just joined the Facebook Page “Plodding Through the President’s,” too. Thank you for preparing these wonderful shows.

    • Howard Dorre
      December 3, 2020 / 2:37 pm

      Thank you so much for listening and reaching out, and for your support!!

  2. Díana Li
    January 31, 2022 / 10:45 am

    I live to witness that resurgence!! Don’t know why but I’m devoted and in love with G. Morris and would love to be part of an effort to bring him to prominence…to the respect, admiration, gratefulnes, and historical position his valuable visions and contributions to our country entitle him not only to command but to receive.

    • Howard Dorre
      January 31, 2022 / 11:01 am

      I think his story, combined with his wife’s, could make a great multi-season premium cable series that I would finance if I were a billionaire.

      You start with Gouverneur Morris basically as a kid assigned to go meet George Washington at Valley Forge, then you’ve got his incredible role in the Constitution, the sex and violence of the French Revolution, his controversial supporting of the Hartford Convention, and his unexpected Upstairs/Downstairs marriage to Ann Randolph, along with flashbacks to her story and the battle with John Randolph, and then Ann’s struggle after his death to preserve his legacy and make sure their son is provided for.

      He is such a fascinating character with a unique point of view on major events!

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